What are the good genealogy news groups?

Charles Fourquet-Batiz, a Puerto Rican genealogist and co-founder of The Hispanic Genealogical Society of New York recently taped a television program on genealogy specifically for Puerto Ricans. Chaz was a guest on New Jersey’s FAMILY HISTORIAN, a weekly cable show dedicated to genealogy. The program is a half-hour long and will be aired on April 9 in New Jersey’s CTN Channel.

 

Chaz, researching Puerto Rico for over 7 years, has used his experience to help many others find their Puerto Rican roots here in the U.S. His pursuits for sources and his own research has taken him back to the island several times a year. As co-founder of HGSNY he has been instrumental in seeking out and bringing together novices and veterans for information sharing workshops and meetings. Charlie has created three webpages on the internet related to genealogy and the Puerto Rican culture.

 

Chaz is a board member of La Casa De La Herencia Puertorriqueña, where the society holds its meetings and conferences. On Family Historian, Chaz brings his expertise to television while he discusses topics such as: How to begin Puerto Rican research, finding resources outside of the island, how to read old census and baptism records and even reviewed some books as aids for research. For almost 10 years, FAMILY HISTORIAN has brought genealogy to people’s homes. Stephen Conte, its host and producer, has also produced several other Hispanic genealogical shows including Cuban and Portuguese genealogy.

Courses associated with family history

I am also not associated with anyone new group and I’m posting this on all the news groups and hope that all who are interested in genealogy and on line real time chat will join this channel and participate. It will take time to grow and hopefully you will join in and help out! Again I apologize to those of you who have already stopped in and I wasn’t there.

 

I do hope that you will come back and help make this channel a favorite to those who are into genealogy. If the hours 6 to 7 is not convenient write me email to and let me know what time is best for you and if I can I will try to be on what is convenient to you. The channel is growing after a couple of weeks and we have 7 AOPS (channel monitors). We have people from the UK, Holland, Australia, New Zealand, Norway as well as several from the US now joining the channel. So at times it is getting busy and is becoming more fun! I must also point out that we have helped so far about 15 people get a start in finding their ancestors.

 

This of course is our goal helping people especially newbies into genealogy! For those of you who are searching in the UK, we have a person from the UK who will be glad to answer your questions and in some cases help you to do basic searches in the UK. Sundays Between 7:00 and 9:00 PM E.S.Te will be on line to: Answer any questions you ask, he is good at UK vital Index Searches. He can tell you how, what to look for, what to avoid and if necessary can do it for for you if he has the time.

Genealogy :Family history research

I have a subscription to Ancestry.com, and I absolutely love it. Can’t imagine going back to family searching without it. I am considering a subscription to genealogy as well. In particular, I’m interested in subscribing to the 1900 Census index. Are they a good service? If so, are they OK with subscription renewals? I have a subscription to Ancestry.com, and I absolutely love it. Can’t imagine going back to family searching without it.

 

I am considering a subscription to genealogyas well. In particular, I’m interested in subscribing to the 1900 Census index. Are they a good service? If so, are they OK with subscription renewals? Thanks in advance for your thoughts. From what I have seen, no, they aren’t. In creating a “first name list” for a surname, they will pull in practically ANY word that appeared in a message in some genealogy forum (newsgroup, other genealogy sites’ message boards, etc.), even if that word is not a typical given name.

 

I’ve seen STATES’ ABBREVIATIONS for example, among such a list. They do provide an index to occurrances of names on their “WFT” CD set. However, note that what they do is effectively publish genealogies that were FREELY uploaded to them, and then CHARGE an amount beyond cost for the CD. If they only charged at cost, this wouldn’t be such an outrage. Also, many uploaders weren’t apparently aware of this practice.Where you start your search determines the scope of the results we will show you.

 

If you search from the main page at Genealogy, we’ll show you results from our entire search database regardless of whether the search result is in our CD collection, in one of our online data collections, or to any free resource we have (including our GenForum message boards, home pages or other Internet matches). However, we do categorize the matches so you can easily get to the matches in the data collection(s) that you own.

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Services offered by soc.genealogy groups

Each group/list pair has a bi-directional gateway. Posts to either the group or list will be sent by the gateway to the list or group. Please keep the dual nature of each group/list in mind – subject drift and inappropriate cross-posting may be felt less acceptable to people on mailing lists than to people reading via newsgroups. Conversely, posts saying only “please unsubscribe me” can be expected in the newsgroups. With some tolerance and understanding, we should all be able to get along. Q What is going to happen to soc.roots?

 

A Any posts which would have been welcome in soc.roots will be welcome in one of the new soc.genealogy.* groups. After the soc.genealogy.misc group has been created, and after a transition period of 30-60 days or so, soc.roots will be removed. When the removal messages are eventually sent out, how they are handled depends on how your news administrator has configured your news system.

 

At that time, your newsreader software may quietly ignore the removed group, or you may see messages from your newsreader describing the removed group as a “bogus newsgroup.” This would be normal behavior, and not cause for alarm. Feel free to find some way to mark the passing of a newsgroup that served the Usenet and on-line genealogy communities for over ten years, and which has left a generation of descendants.

Genealogy search and its significance

The failure in the chain comes in that there is no checks and balances. Meaning that the producer of the GEDCOM spec is not willing to say that the output of Said program is GEDCOM Compliant. So anyone or Can say that their program is GEDCOM Compliant. The only feature that they will say and list is if the program outputs either a Temple Ready or a Ancestrial File compliant GEDCOM. which are minimal at best.

 

PAF, hardly used a third of the 4.0 spec, and it didn’t even follow the rules of its own Gedcom spec. Stateing that the first in a series of Gedcom Tags was the best, throw it a series of 1 NAME tags and it would choose the last in the series. Which was contrary to the Spec. Then changing the Status of flags between GEDCOM 4.0 to GEDCOM 5.x ALIA is the best example of that. And also stating that when GEDCOM 6.x becomes Available that more than likely it will not be compatable with previous Specs.

 

Actually I don’t look as this as a bad thing, Seeing the short comings of the current GEDCOM Spec. Maybe it is time to rewrite it from the ground up.I’m new to genealogy, but even I can realize that we are closely reaching a threshhold with the ability to share information with someone half-way around the world at the click of a mouse, we’ve got to make certain that our programs are able to talk to each other and that we can all provide and support our sources. That’s just good scholarship. i think it’s worse than that.

 

GEDCOM, if well documented, well implemented and well used[1] has the potential to let you share genealogical information with someone with whom you don’t have a common language[2], but this is slowly being erroded by the mainstream genealogical programs. GEDCOM need not be hard for end users, java, which uses some of the key features (unicode etc) has been widely popular. GEDCOM also has what has got to be the most readable BNF grammer i’ve ever encountered[2], and i’ve seen a few.

Canadian Genealogy and its importance

I’m glad to see the process under way. Enough people have aske for it. For starters, I recommend that you reformat the RFD so that line lengths are 75 characters or less. It is hard to read with the lines wrapped. This RFD seems to me to stress what will be done about offenders – and that ads are welcome – when it is more important to talk about things which make Canadian Genealogy unique enough to require a new group.

 

All those warnings about what will happen to offenders gives an unnecessarily negative tone to the whole thing, I think. : unmoderated group soc.genealogy.canada I expect David Lawrence and Group Advice will prefer soc.genealogy.canadian because of the precedents already set. The “ethno” groups all have adjectival names except for the compound names australia+nz and uk+ireland and the one being voted on now, west-indies.

 

: A FAQ on this topic is not planned at the moment, and a Surname : Interest List has : not been set up. If you are not going to have these things, just don’t mention them at all. It isn’t relevant to the RFD, though plans to have them would be a selling point to voters. If someone comes up with a FAQ later, it can be done without the RFD having said so. FAQs are very useful to have, however.

The newsgroup will encourage postings that will. Request and freely provide Canadian genealogy and family history information  Offer professional services that clearly specify fee-for-work. Advertise genealogy products from Canadian sources, provided that : the posting clearly state that it is an advert.

Information on genealogy database

As with any project, a fundamental and recurring question is, what should I do now, what is the next step? Genealogy Project management software will aid in the process. These programs usually offer a number of forms, on which, you may record steps for your activity. Once you see the steps the sequence becomes more apparent.

 

They don’t answer the question, rather they help you to see the critical path of information-gathering necessary to reach your goal. There are hundreds, maybe thousands of pieces of information that are created during a person’s life. The more we know about an ancestor the texture of that persons life becomes more complete. Professional historians usually don’t see genealogy as another branch of their profession because of the lack of rigor with which we approach genealogy. Most people find that as the project becomes more intense the adoption of professional methods of the historian become more useful. What do I want to know. What do I know.

 

What disparate pieces of information are sufficient to elevate something from suspect status to known status. Disparate facts recorded in a genealogy program lack the visibility that they would have in a genealogy project management program (GPMP). I tend to view information in my genealogy database as permanent, well semi-permanent at least. Whereas information in a GPMP is fluid and always changing. A project management program is often a well maintained notebook. I solicit opinions on what is out there and works for others.

Genealogy program through Internet

Soc.genealogy.african has recently encountered an opportunistic and hostile energy, taking the form of a particularly offensive message thread that continues beyond any reason. It persists because this message has been crossposted to several unrelated newsgroups in such a manner as to develop a miserable little life of its own, and diverting attention from this newsgroup’s intended purpose. And while the thread persists, exciting the nerves and diverse opinions of many cyber-denizens from around the world, the sum and total of these messages serves up nothing but insult to the legitimate users of this newsgroup.

 

It is, in addition, a total waste of bandwidth. Moderation of soc.genealogy.african will cure this infection of poor taste and bad judgment, at least within this newsgroup. Moderation will restore the decorum of the newsgroup, and lead again to a productive atmosphere. Actually, having wandered through many of these in my search for The Perfect Genealogy Program, I would say the FTM and PAF are good basic programs — and might well serve all your needs. While their features probably appeal more to “weekend hobbyists,” they are more than adequate for many serious genealogists I know.

 

Certainly one or the other of these programs is a good choice for somebody who knows little about both genealogy and computers. In terms of features, I would put Brother’s Keeper and Legacy on the next tier up. Legacy is The New Kid On The Block; I saw a demo at the NGS Convention and was impressed with both the ease of use and the flexibility. Their customer support currently also seems to be outstanding. Brother’s Keeper has been around a lot longer. A year ago, I found the interface awkward and uninspiring, but I know lots of satisfied and enthusiastic users.

 

The two programs with the most flexibility for data entry and retrieval are — currently — UFT and TMG. I used UFT for six months but finally gave up on it because of the long lag times (weeks) to get answers to customer support queries. TMG is my current program — and probably will remain so. Between TMG and UFT, TMG has MUCH more flexibility. The only downside of TMG — for me — was a steep learning curve — caused now, I realize — as much by my inexperience with genealogy as by anything else. TMG will do almost anything — and the customer support is the best in the business.

Genealogy Via the Internet

The pre-existing mailing lists for Jewish, German, and French genealogy will be affected, but the current subscribers will be notified about any changes through the existing mailing list. Q What do I have to do to read the new groups, once they are on my system? A If you are reading this message in one of the soc.genealogy. groups, then this question and the next one don’t apply to you.

 

Otherwise, if you are reading this message by some other means, once the new groups become available on your system, you will have to tell your news-reading software that you want to read them (or as many of them as you like). You probably will be able to do this from the news-reading interface, but the way to do it will vary with your choice of news-reading software, and there are simply too many possibilities to try to describe them all.

 

If you have difficulty with this, try reading the software manual, getting help locally, reading news.newusers.questions or news.software.readers, or, as a last resort, asking for help in soc.roots. If you must post a message asking for help, be sure to mention both the type of news-reading software and the type of host system.

Eventually, each of the new groups will have its own FAQ file(s) and periodic posts. Once things settle down, the number of meta-questions (about how to use the new set-up) will die down, and we will all be better able to focus on genealogy. Again, thanks for your patience.

Facts concerning the genealogy

Canadians have ancestors and descendants scattered all over the world. It has been estimated that over 4 million people world wide can trace their genealogy back to Nova Scotia alone, a small province on Canada’s eastern shore. At present, discussions and queries about Canadian genealogical matters are mainly posted to either alt.genealogy or soc.genealogy.misc, making genealogical researching in Canada on the Internet rather haphazard at best.

 

These groups are already heavily used, and one must scan all of the listings in order to find the postings concerning Canada. On average, at least a half dozen queries concerning Canada appear on any one scanning of the alt.genealogy and soc. genealogy.misc. Since there have been a number of requests from researchers for a separate Canadian newsgroup, it has been decided that a newsgroup for Canadian queries be created. The focus of the soc.genealogy.canada newsgroup is on exchanging information concerning the genealogy and family history of Canadian ancestered people worldwide.

 

The newsgroup will encourage postings that will: 1. Request and freely provide Canadian genealogy and family history information; 2. Offer professional services that clearly specify fee-for-work.  Advertise genealogy products from Canadian sources, provided that the posting clearly state that it is an advert; 5. Announce, advertise, or promote genealogy conferences or meetings. Postings may be in any language, although English postings will likely receive the widest audience.

The newsgroup will encourage posting from any part of the world, but will discourage postings which: 1. Are inflammatory, abusive, use foul language, or that violate Canadian law;  Make disparaging remarks about nationalities, ethic groups, religious or charitable groups, sexual orientation, age, mental or physical disabilities; Discuss political systems of any government of the world, or political parties at any level of such governments; 4. Reveal any personal information whatsoever about people living, or dead for less than 25 years; 5. Contain text longer that one 8.5″x11″ or A4 size page. It is suggested that such information be provided by FTP or offered by direct e-mail address rather than to this newsgroup. Postings from mailing lists are included in this restriction.